"No matter how many instances I give you, you will deny and excuse every one of them.
If you don't believe what I said about democrats, then your're either lying or you've been hiding under a rock somewhere...
look it up yourself
Now let's talk about your false messiah
* I would have never lied to the American people about a trillion dollar spending bill and then used it to pay back my supporters
* I would have never sent millions of dollars to Africa to kill unborn children
* I would have never taken over 2 automobile companies and broke bankruptcy laws to do it.
* I would have never abused my power and written 161 executive orders, mostly to bypass congress
* I would have never lied about the sequester and shut down white house tours and then take a $60-$100 million dollar trip to Africa
* I would never spend so much time on the golf course
* I would never allow myself or my family to spend millions of dollars on high priced vacations when Americans can't find jobs
* I would never refuse to obey some laws (DOMA) and enforce others
* I would have never given millions to my friends to start green energy companies that went bankrupt and stole taxpayer money
* I would never threaten seniors and hold their social security checks hostage just to raise the debt ceiling
* I would never have lied about what it would cost to pass an abomination like obamacare and then issue waivers and delays
* I would have never let Iranians die in the street when they were screaming my name to help them fight for freedom
* I would have never lied about an arab spring that turned into a muslim brotherhood nightmare
* I would have never provided information about the seal team that killed bin laden, just to kiss my own butt, only to watch terrorists murder them because I'm narcissistic
* I would never allow my AG to send guns to drug cartels in Mexico that killed an American border agent
* I would have never sued states for trying to enforce their borders and protect voting rights
* I would never allow my AG to be held in contempt of congress.
* I would never allow gays to serve openly in the military and at the same time restrict the religious rights of christian soldiers
* I would never try to force churches and religious institutions to provide birth control
* I would never sign a law that allows american citizens to be arrested and be detained indefinitely without due process
* I would never go around the world apologizing for America
* I would never allow the muslim brotherhood into the white house
* I would never promise hope and change to the black community and ignore them after I won
* I would never bow down to a foreign leader
* I would have never flown to vegas and left 4 Americans to die in Benghazi and then lie about it and blame a video
* I would never give money and weapons to foreign countries that burn our flag
* I would never use dead or living children as props to pass a socialist agenda
* I would never give an IRS agent a paid vacation after targeting my political opponents
* I would never lie and call myself a christian and then recite the koran and pray in a mosque
* I would never lie about climate change and prepare to bankrupt the coal industry, just to raise taxes
* I would never lie about an immigration reform bill that will take jobs from Americans and provide my party with 11 million new voters
*I would never use the death of a 17 year old black kid as an opportunity to take guns away from law abiding citizens
* I would never take a teleprompter with me to talk to kids in an elementary school
I could go on and on, but I'm sure you'll find someway to excuse everything I wrote
and last but not least...
you proved my point and committed your BIGGEST FAIL of all
There is no way in the world I could hate black people
especially when I happen to be one"
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Thursday, July 18, 2013
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A commenter calling himself webnetcity makes the following observations over at newsbusters.org:
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This is hilarious! These are all ridiculous, but here are some of my favorites:
"* I would have never abused my power and written 161 executive orders, mostly to bypass congress"
No president has used fewer executive orders than Obama since Grover Cleveland
"* I would never spend so much time on the golf course"
Less time, than say, George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan
"* I would never allow myself or my family to spend millions of dollars on high priced vacations when Americans can't find jobs"
No modern president has taken fewer vacations than Obama
You give no data to support that.
Assertions such as those without evidence can be dismissed w/o evidence, if one adheres to Hitchens theorem.
But if we assume that to be true, the remaining scandals and government abuse following Obama's "gun to a knife fight" and "I'll have the IRS audit you" and "most transparent gov't evah" followed by specific persecution of inspectors general and whistle blowers and leakers, and hundreds of other abuses of power make Obama the most abusive executive of my lifetime at least.
Clinton and Carter were no match, although Nixon and LBJ came close, although not with abuse of their political opponents and the American citizenry in general.
Nonetheless, the commenter was declaring what he would do or not do, not what previous presidents did or did not do. So such criticism misses the mark because it is a black and white fallacy.
For example, Obama's travel has been largely for partisan fund raising; his vacations were lavish, not unlike the French royalty: a thumb in the eye of the unemployed, including his own constituents.
"Obama the most abusive executive of my lifetime at least."
Let me guess your age. You're a three year old? :-)
I would never use a unicorn to battle a flying turtle.
I would never bet on battling space monkeys.
Nonetheless, I'm declaring what I would do or not do, not what previous presidents did or did not do. So such criticism of my vague and untrue imagination-based rantings misses the mark because it is a black and white fallacy.
Gawd how I love it when Leftists show up to demonstrate their level of intellectual maturity. Rather than argue for the purity and integrity of their messiah, they do the above.
The AtheoLeft is so self-enamored that any criticism at all is an offense that must be attacked with their only actual weapon: deprecation, usually either by obvious fallacy, faux moral outrage (they have no fixed morals), or by childish ridicule. They are ever willing to demonstrate those traits.
It is a sight to behold, Stan.
For decades now the Left has been shouting down the Christians and moral realists, telling us in no uncertain terms that morality is relative and we should not foist our ethics upon the poor relativists.
But of course, that was never going to be enough for the 'morally righteous' Left. In recent years the 'reativists' have revealed their hand: all opposing views are flat-out WRONG and IMMORAL. No debate is necessary! The morally bankrupt relativists are *conflicted* relativists! They have assumed the role of 'The New Moralizers.' And NONE of them seem to recognise the sinking ground upon which they attempt to stand.
These are truly strange times.
One may ask:
http://WhatTheHeckHasObamaDoneSoFar.com/
The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009: a $789 billion economic stimulus plan
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ5/pdf/PLAW-111publ5.pdf
Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/10/08/its-official-more-private-sector-jobs-created-in-2010-than-during-entire-bush-years/
Voluntary disclosure of White House visitors for the first time in US history
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records
Promoted social responsibility through creation of serve.gov, a national database of volunteer opportunities
http://www.serve.gov/
Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/pentagon-will-help-families/
Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
http://recovery.gov
Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America's Veterans
http://www4.va.gov/budget/products.asp
Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/09/obama-administration-stem-cell-funding
Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_Systems_Acquisition_Reform_Act_of_2009
Tax cuts for up to 3.5 million small businesses to help pay for employee health care coverage
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/obama-signs-bill-on-student-loans-health-care/
-_-Black,
Analogies always fail, some sooner than others. The subject at hand involves criticism of actual presidential activities; yours does not. False Analogy, immediately realized.
It's OK, try again.
Ok we have a taker. Let’s take a look at these accomplishments of Obama:
IThe American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009: a $789 billion economic stimulus plan
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ5/pdf/PLAW-111publ5.pdf
Billions given to crony banks to cover their corrupt asses. Banks were about to fail due their corrupt practices. They did not use the money to stimulate the economy. Instead they maintained or increased the requirements to get loans. No bankers or Wall Streeters prosecuted; none.
”Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/10/08/its-official-more-private-sector-jobs-created-in-2010-than-during-entire-bush-years/”
Absurd. Presidents do not create jobs, except in the non-producing government sector. Obama has stultified the private sector with unsettled government attitudes, and penalties created against the sector.
”Voluntary disclosure of White House visitors for the first time in US history
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records
Yes, this is good. What a major feat!
”Promoted social responsibility through creation of serve.gov, a national database of volunteer opportunities
http://www.serve.gov/
This would be good, if volunteers actually needed it; actual volunteers can find opportunities on their own. The Peace Corps was created by JFK. But locally, it is churches and religious orgs who do the boots on the ground.
”Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/pentagon-will-help-families/
This is not new, nor is it specific to Obama. My wife’s entire family was flown, on taxpayer $, to DC for the full ceremonial Arlington burial of her uncle, who died in WWII and whose remains were found in his wrecked bomber on a China mountainside around a decade ago.
Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
http://recovery.gov
Yes, this is good – except wait! Obama persecutes squealers. But what the hell, it’s just a website at, what, $20 / month. Well, except it’s the government, so it probably has billions tied up in it.
Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America's Veterans
http://www4.va.gov/budget/products.asp
Yes this is good; much of the veteran’s medical facilities were uninhabitable, as reported on TV. $1.4 billion is not enough, though, and appears to be a token.
Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/09/obama-administration-stem-cell-funding
Which is a guaranteed failed program, like his Solyndra and other payoffs to corrupt idealism cronies who take the taxpayer cash and run. Embryonic stem cell research is both useless and immoral. Adult stem cells will and have revolutionized medicine, while embryonic stem cells produce tumors and little else. It functionally is the abortion of Snowflake Babies as a government and Leftist eugenic exercise.
Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_Systems_Acquisition_Reform_Act_of_2009
Yes, this is good. But it targets only defense, which the Left hates. What about fraud on Wall Street and the monster banks? Oh that’s right, they funnel cash into the Left’s programs and elections to keep the good will flowing… in their direction. Defense fraud is piker cash compared to the big banks and Wall St. in collusion with the Leftist politicians.
”Tax cuts for up to 3.5 million small businesses to help pay for employee health care coverage
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/obama-signs-bill-on-student-loans-health-care/
Obamacare is a tax hike, as was declared by the US Supreme Court; it is so onerous a cost increase on Americans that the major unions are fighting to not be included, and the Obama administration has put off the implementation of parts of it until after the next election to conceal the financial hurt from the low information voters.
Obama has succeeded in creating the largest poverty population in the US yet as seen by the number of new indigents who are on food stamps. This has been done by threatening small businesses, denying that the owners even created them (ostensibly the gov’t did?), and forcing businesses of all stripes to go to part-time employees to avoid the punishment of the government healthcare. Not to mention freezing hiring due to the threats of healthcare punishments.
Student loans are a tacit collusion between government and universities to fatten universities at the expense of students who are left with massive loans and no jobs. Universities need not be fiscally responsible, they merely raise prices unconscionably, and the government colludes by lending the extra to students. University corruption is another bubble which cannot survive and which is abetted by the government cronies. Guess who universities and their staffs support?
The minor good that Obama has done is vastly outweighed by the ill he has done. It started immediately when he eliminated the chances for black students in DC who excelled in school to go to better schools on vouchers, an existing program which Obama nuked the first week in office. He declared the most transparent government ever on his daily TV orgy and then went straight into a closed door meeting with his cronies. He has been an example to blacks and minorities… showing them that lying, dishonesty and lack of a moral base, and refusing to disclose personal history will get them power. Along with Holder he has been a racially divisive force, injecting himself personally into local issues to exacerbate racial tension. He has maintained, along with Congress, a sexist compensation policy, paying women less than men (except perhaps Michelle’s BFF). He has refused to enforce several Laws of the Land, thereby violating his oath of office. His henchmen have used the full force of the US government to persecute American citizens because of their perceived political tendencies toward constitutional law, in direct violation of the First Amendment. He is an Alinsky acolyte, having taught “Rules For Radicals” as a community organizer. He used ACORN to corrupt the election process. He defends the spying on Americans by NSA, which we are discovering to have been deeper than ever considered believable, even in the movies. He has fired the inspectors general who revealed the corruption in Obama and his pack. He has ignored the murders of hundreds under his administration's failed policies (gun walking; Benghazi).
(This can go on indefinitely, should I continue? Or is the point sufficiently made?)
I almost forgot: the most transparent adminstration evah required survivors of the Benghazi debacle to sign non-disclosures, apparently to avoid testamony on the administration's valiant actions that day.
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