Sunday, August 24, 2014

An "Atheist Meme" Failure

Sometimes a link will lead to another link until you reach something like... Atheist Memes. This is a site which consists of Atheist bumper sticker slogans, mostly of the ridicule or sloganeering kind. This one "meme" caught my attention:





Let's count the errors in this Atheist bumper sticker logic.

On the Christian side,

1. Subjective evidence is implied to be unreliable. Yet Atheism, itself, is based not on any supporting evidence or disciplined logic, but on emotional rejectionism. And that is purely subjective neediness. All knowledge is subjectively acquired and assimilated, with subjective discrimination and analysis. And all knowledge is contingent, especially that which claims Materialism yet has no material evidence for its claims (including the validity of Materialism).

2. Inconsistent Reasoning? There is nothing "inconsistent" about the arguments (from Aquinas to the simple challenge on this blog) which Atheists cannot defeat. It can be shown that Atheists in general do not use Aristotelian deduction at all, but that they always rather use Peirce's abduction and/or probabilistic methods such as Bayes Theorem which allows them to fabricate probabilities to fit their preconceptions and emotional needs, or they resort to ridicule. Bumper stickers never back up their claims, and some, like Atheist bumper stickers, cannot back them up.

On the Atheist side,

1. Objective Evidence which supports (much less proves) that Atheism is true does NOT exist. And when invited to disprove miracles such as Lourdes where objective evidence exists against Atheism, Atheists merely ridicule, rather than even attempting to refute that evidence. So this claim is patently false, as in a blatant lie.

2. Demonstrably consistent reasoning for Atheism does not exist. If Atheists had a single valid, true argument, they all would make it. There is no such argument, and Atheists commonly resort to faux Scientism, a logical error. That was refuted by Karl Popper, long ago. When asked to prove that a creating agent for the universe absolutely cannot exist, Atheists head for the door. This claim is also a lie.

Since both of the claims against Christians and both of the claims for Atheism are false, then the Atheist bumper sticker fails its own standards, and is inconsistent logic. Totally inconsistent logic.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have found an interesting blog by a Davis Danizier who seems to believe in the Jesus Myth somewhat. He also critiqued a few God arguments, and he has a book called Betrayal of Jesus:

Danizier Blog Home Page

Danizier: Is there a God

Amazon: Betrayal of Jesus

Robert Coble said...

Would you please explain the "Jesus Myth?" somewhat as you understand it?

Anonymous said...

OK. The Jesus Myth is a belief that he never existed, or that it's doubtful that he did exist. I think that it also has to do with that crap about Jesus being copied from Pagan Gods as well.

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Phoenix said...

I wonder if atheists are even aware that the inventor of Bayes Theorem and the one who published the theorem were both priests.Reverend Thomas Bayes and Richard Price was a chaplain?

Robert Coble said...

Perhaps "average person logic" is somewhat derogatory, coming from a "Bright?"

Phoenix said...

I've never come across a christian who have ever said "Hi,I'm certain I base my faith in God on inconsistent reasoning"

The Atheist has to downgrade the christian's position so that his own may appear rational in comparison.

Anonymous said...

Good point, Phoenix. One thing they like to do is use the fear of death. They try to say that most Christians are only going to the faith because of that. On Facebook, one person I know said that religion was invented because of the fear of death, but he didn't elaborate.

Robert Coble said...

I've never quite understood the projection of atheists of "wish fulfillment" as the source of origin for religion in general and of Christianity in particular. If there was only the positive side (heaven), I could understand that as a desire for continued existence after death, in a plane of existence that is better than the present one, and in which the scales of justice are balanced (finally!).

(For guys, the "72 virgins" aspect of Islam might seem attractive at first blush, but stop and consider: have you ever lived in a house full of women? 72 WOMEN?!? And what does one do with the rest of eternity after the 72 virgins have been deflowered?!? No offense to the distaff side; have you ever considered having to live with 72 MEN for all eternity?!? But I digress. . .)

"Wish fulfillment" does NOT provide a satisfactory explanation for the notion of hell and eternal suffering. Who would wish for THAT?!?

Phoenix said...

One thing they like to do is use the fear of death

I've come across this too but IMO, I don't see any dilemma in it that could produce a fear of death.
a)If God exists then he must be rational,since the laws of the universe and the beings observing them are rational.A rational God would evaluate our life path that we lived rationally,fair and with the greatest good in mind.
b)if God doesn't exist then there's no reason to fear death either since death would be an like an eternal sleep.
c)The atheist should produce evidence for such a claim or else he's just poisoning the well.
Perhaps there are some theists who do believe in God because of fear or on the other hand perhaps there are Atheists who live such miserable,pathetic and meaningless lives that they wish to dissappear completely after death.

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