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Sunday, August 4, 2013
Which Of These Kids Looks Like Obama's Son?
Let's see how many empathetic Leftists set up a sanctimonious howl, organize 100 city protests, and demand civil rights actions against the poor black kids in this racial attack:
Crime is crime - black or not - you fucking racist.
"what will he say about these black lads? Hint: very likely nothing."
Nobody cares if the kids in the video are black or not. Everybody would condemn the actions. You fucking racist.
"There is a valid reason why people lock their doors in the presence of young black men. It is not because of racism, it is because of practical knowledge of trends within their culture"
People lock their doors to avoid ANY STRANGERS, BLACK OR NOT, You fucking racist!
Forget Trayvon or Zimmerman, you proved you are an irrational racist! No wonder nobody cares about your blog!! BYE!!!
A naturalist, You have not shown any data to support a single one of your contentions. However, I will add your pejorative to the list of acceptable terms.
"what will he say about these black lads? Hint: very likely nothing."
RACIST
"There is a valid reason why people lock their doors in the presence of young black men. It is not because of racism, it is because of practical knowledge of trends within their culture"
Oh, I see. Your definition of racist is that any comment to which you object is racist. It certainly didn't take much at all to get you to demonstrate that.
Are you aware of my race? Remember, it is commonly claimed that black people cannot be racist. So just maybe an apology might be in order?
And even Jesse Jackson has claimed to be relieved when he turns around and finds that the people running up behind him are young white men. Please do call him up and let him know that he is, what did you say? Oh yes, a "fucking racist!".
Next, it would be so good of you to provide evidence that anything I have said regarding the racism of the Left is actually demonstrably false. Or evidence that the shouts of "racism" by Left at the non-Left reflect anything that is actually true.
Could you go ahead and actually do something that has real evidence attached to it? Because your opinion of what is racist is really quite weak.
A Naturalist, Thanks. You have been quite successful at demonstrating a central point of the race issue as presents in our current society: Any statement contrary to the Leftist dogmatic Narrative is met with charges of behavior which the Democrat Left actually exhibits, and then projects onto their enemies.
A Naturalist demonstrates this hysterically, shouting that even quoting Jesse Jackson is: "Fucking Racist!"
Now A Naturalist seems to be language impaired in regards to expressing why Jesse Jackson is a racist, being able to muster only two words: an expletive and an adjective/noun. This of course is grade school level discourse, and is without any actual meaning other than to demonstrate the juvenile level of the originator.
What A Naturalist cannot do is to dispassionately demonstrate why the statements being made are false, or even demonstrate that they are indeed false (they are not). This indicates that falseness and truth is not an issue for A Naturalist: the Narrative is the issue, and the Narrative must be protected, presumably by shouting "racist!" in the hopes that the offender will cow to avoid the charges. In other words, A Naturalist is trying to BULLY an opinion into acceptance, probably because he cannot conceive of how to intellectually justify it.
A Naturalist, thanks for your performance here; your demonstration has been a superb example of just what I have talked about.
@A. Naturalist: you sir, act as though shouting in caps will make your statements valid.
Volume=Correct
or in other words, Might makes Right.
You're not rational yourself. Why should we pay any mind to your ranting? You can't help it - I understand that. Why don't you waste your time elsewhere?
No matter what we say, or what we do, you will keep your fingers jammed in your ears as you repeat your mantra. So stop wasting our time, too.
Steven, What's your problem? The use of ALL CAPS? Really? So are you telling me that you care more about the way I typed here rather than what Stan said here on this post? Let me tone it down, just for you my little friend...
This tells a lot about you; you would rather support a "friend" rather than an "enemy" just because of the style, you think that Stan did not sound racist here on this post, really? Or are you just fishing for an ally because Stan loves to pet you or something?
Please, read for yourself these fine lines by your "friend" Stan and tell me why they are NOT racist comments:
Stan's comment after posting a video of 3 kids beating a 4th one:
"Let's see how many empathetic Leftists set up a sanctimonious howl, organize 100 city protests, and demand civil rights actions against the poor black kids in this racial attack"
How is that NOT racist Steven?
1) Stan labeling crime as being 'black', as if crime could have a 'race' or 'color':
"while ignoring all of the black crimes around them."
2) Stan commenting on Obama's theorical reaction to the video:
"what will he say about these black lads? Hint: very likely nothing."
3) Stan commenting on how young black mean are to be feared:
"There is a valid reason why people lock their doors in the presence of young black men."
4) "Black crimes" again:
"These boys will receive justice due to the filming of the event. Most victims of black crimes are not so lucky."
5) Stan attempt at humor perhaps?
"Are you aware of my race? Remember, it is commonly claimed that black people cannot be racist. So just maybe an apology might be in order?"
6) Or Stan not understanding why a comment is racist?
"...relieved when he turns around and finds that the people running up behind him are young white men."
7) FINALLY, not a quote, but a general statement about how Stan wrote a bunch of things of other topics since he tries to bring other things in the area to avoid answering for his racist comments. This further supports this idea that he IS actually racist. He is too dumb to see which of his comments are racists. He could be write about everything else he writes about Democrats or Republicans or anybody else he likes or not. It does not matter. He is still a FUCKING RACIST. Period!
Steven, can you explain why all of these 6 comments were not racists?
Can you explain why Stan would bring up other topics instead of explaining why he did not mean to sound racist? (Since after all, that's what he is "supposed" to care about right? He insists that he is 'note' racists but others are!!)
Black leaders ignore black on black crime. They do NOT organize 100 city marches against black on black crime.
Your attempt to suppress this issue and any conversation about it with your shouting and sanctimony is irrational and indicative of your innnate totalitarian, dishonest, mental warping.
Either provide actual evidence that the assertion regarding the racist racial focus of black leaders is false, or shut up yourself.
You appear to be roughly nine years old; if your behavior continues in the same vein, you will not be allowed to continue to comment here.
A Naturalist, What I would like from you is something of substance other than childish name-calling.
What conversation do YOU want to have? You have provided nothing of substance whatsoever here. You have been going on for quite awhile with your schoolyard behavior - can you write anything which contributes to a defense of Leftist behaviors? You have done nothing of the sort up to this point. All you have done is to assert schoolyard bully-type shouting.
If you can be rational, then do it. Provide a rational defense of specific Leftist behaviors which have been criticised here. If not, then this is not the place for you or your behaviors.
Hahaha! Typical rant from another internet troll. Pose several questions, then answer them him/her/itself. Then cuss some more. Talk about a one-sided conversation. "LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU MISTER RACIST LA-LA-LA"
How telling. A. Naturalist is here to vent and not converse. But I think the rest of us already knew that.
I think Stan is just trying to point out the issue of political correctness in our society. If a group of white kids ganged up on and jumped a black kid in a school bus, our society would immediately react as if was a racist attack and maybe rightfully so. But on the other hand, when the reverse happens and a white kid is jumped by black kids, there are no racial implications or the racial implications are ignored. This is a form of racism in itself as it descriminates against whites (in saying they cannot be victims of racism in our society) and ultimately championing black people as the morally superior race by default, which is not always the case.
There is a demonstration here of another type of Leftist antirational attack: "you are too stupid/racist to even know that you are racist". This is actually a thread running through Leftist rants, and it is a purposeful elevation of the accuser to a supposed postion of omniscience which allows him/her to "see" racism where no one else can see it.
This is associated with the idea that no white can experience invisible racism because only blacks and Leftists (honorary blacks) can see it. Conservative blacks are "not black enough" to see the invisible racism which they have adopted themselves into by accepting the racist conservative position.
The conspiracy theory amounts to this: if there were no conservatives, all blacks would be prosperous.
That ingnores the fact that the Left demonstrably destroys wealth (Detroit, inflation, high minimum wage, bloated non-producing government), while the conservatives are producing it. Without conservatives the Left would turn all of the nation into Detroit, with no one left to bail it out.
Blacks are persecuted by Leftist policies, while consuming goods and largesse produced by non-Leftists.
Yet they vote for the Left, because the non-Left is vilified as invisible racist by the ever-tolerant Left.
I think it's because there is a racist undertone that resonates with some conservatives in saying that black people are violent, uneducated, ruthless etc. because they are an inherently inferior race, and it's that undertone which is fought against by the leftists.
@A. Naturalist
I suspect that if someone was racist, they would admit that they were racist. And If they thought racism is defensible, they would defend it. Much like an atheist tries to defend atheism. And a feminist tries to defend their believing that men are inferior.
A Naturalist, Try reading for meaning. Obama has not addressed the video has he? It is because he is a Leftist racist, not because he is black. The Leftist leaders, many of whom are black, are the topic here.
You see racism where it does not exist precisely because you ARE the speech police. If your misinterpretation offends you, then you scream moral imprecations at the top of your sanctimonious, self-righteous font. You are either a PC Prude or a complete phony.
Your ignorance of meaning, even if feigned, hampers your judgment, and your personal elitist arrogance in the absence of rational judgment allows you to judge others as if you are their God. But you are not only not a god of any type, you are also ignorant of the basic anti-racist thread being proposed here.
I suspect that you are smarter than you choose to appear, and that you have chosen to disrupt this attack on racism - Leftist racism - by screaming your obscenities and juvenile accusations.
You will not succeed. You have provided, and continue to provide exactly nothing but your own mistaken, arrogant and phony Morality Play. I have come to even doubt that you have a fixed set of morals outside of the Alinsky consequentialist attack tactic.
Your demonstration of the paucity of Leftist tolerance and ethics has been conveniently instructive, but it is time for you to beat a different dead horse.
22 comments:
Wow Stan, you really went far with this one.
Why would anybody bring up race regarding such brutal attack on a child!?
"ignoring all of the black crimes around them"
Crime is crime - black or not - you fucking racist.
"what will he say about these black lads? Hint: very likely nothing."
Nobody cares if the kids in the video are black or not. Everybody would condemn the actions. You fucking racist.
"There is a valid reason why people lock their doors in the presence of young black men. It is not because of racism, it is because of practical knowledge of trends within their culture"
People lock their doors to avoid ANY STRANGERS, BLACK OR NOT, You fucking racist!
Forget Trayvon or Zimmerman, you proved you are an irrational racist!
No wonder nobody cares about your blog!!
BYE!!!
A naturalist,
You have not shown any data to support a single one of your contentions. However, I will add your pejorative to the list of acceptable terms.
Your quotes are the data you fucking racist!
"ignoring all of the black crimes around them"
RACIST
"what will he say about these black lads? Hint: very likely nothing."
RACIST
"There is a valid reason why people lock their doors in the presence of young black men. It is not because of racism, it is because of practical knowledge of trends within their culture"
RACIST
Oh, I see. Your definition of racist is that any comment to which you object is racist. It certainly didn't take much at all to get you to demonstrate that.
Are you aware of my race? Remember, it is commonly claimed that black people cannot be racist. So just maybe an apology might be in order?
And even Jesse Jackson has claimed to be relieved when he turns around and finds that the people running up behind him are young white men. Please do call him up and let him know that he is, what did you say? Oh yes, a "fucking racist!".
Next, it would be so good of you to provide evidence that anything I have said regarding the racism of the Left is actually demonstrably false. Or evidence that the shouts of "racism" by Left at the non-Left reflect anything that is actually true.
Could you go ahead and actually do something that has real evidence attached to it? Because your opinion of what is racist is really quite weak.
A Naturalist,
Based on your performance here, I'm betting that you don't even know much, if anything, about Naturalism.
You are too stupid to understand why your own comments are racist!
"Are you aware of my race? Remember, it is commonly claimed that black people cannot be racist. So just maybe an apology might be in order?"
THIS IS ANOTHER RACIST COMMENT. Your own race does not matter.
Fucking racist!
"relieved when he turns around and finds that the people running up behind him are young white men"
YES THIS IS A RACIST COMMENT TOO!
Fucking ignorant irrational racist!
No rational conversation can held with someone like you. You are meant to laughed at.
No need to bring up your republican buddies or democrats enemies. IT'S YOU STAN. ONLY YOU HERE.
YOU ARE THE FUCKING RACIST.
A Naturalist,
Thanks. You have been quite successful at demonstrating a central point of the race issue as presents in our current society: Any statement contrary to the Leftist dogmatic Narrative is met with charges of behavior which the Democrat Left actually exhibits, and then projects onto their enemies.
A Naturalist demonstrates this hysterically, shouting that even quoting Jesse Jackson is: "Fucking Racist!"
Now A Naturalist seems to be language impaired in regards to expressing why Jesse Jackson is a racist, being able to muster only two words: an expletive and an adjective/noun. This of course is grade school level discourse, and is without any actual meaning other than to demonstrate the juvenile level of the originator.
What A Naturalist cannot do is to dispassionately demonstrate why the statements being made are false, or even demonstrate that they are indeed false (they are not). This indicates that falseness and truth is not an issue for A Naturalist: the Narrative is the issue, and the Narrative must be protected, presumably by shouting "racist!" in the hopes that the offender will cow to avoid the charges. In other words, A Naturalist is trying to BULLY an opinion into acceptance, probably because he cannot conceive of how to intellectually justify it.
A Naturalist, thanks for your performance here; your demonstration has been a superb example of just what I have talked about.
@A. Naturalist: you sir, act as though shouting in caps will make your statements valid.
Volume=Correct
or in other words, Might makes Right.
You're not rational yourself. Why should we pay any mind to your ranting? You can't help it - I understand that. Why don't you waste your time elsewhere?
No matter what we say, or what we do, you will keep your fingers jammed in your ears as you repeat your mantra. So stop wasting our time, too.
Steven,
What's your problem? The use of ALL CAPS? Really? So are you telling me that you care more about the way I typed here rather than what Stan said here on this post? Let me tone it down, just for you my little friend...
This tells a lot about you; you would rather support a "friend" rather than an "enemy" just because of the style, you think that Stan did not sound racist here on this post, really? Or are you just fishing for an ally because Stan loves to pet you or something?
Please, read for yourself these fine lines by your "friend" Stan and tell me why they are NOT racist comments:
Stan's comment after posting a video of 3 kids beating a 4th one:
"Let's see how many empathetic Leftists set up a sanctimonious howl, organize 100 city protests, and demand civil rights actions against the poor black kids in this racial attack"
How is that NOT racist Steven?
1) Stan labeling crime as being 'black', as if crime could have a 'race' or 'color':
"while ignoring all of the black crimes around them."
2) Stan commenting on Obama's theorical reaction to the video:
"what will he say about these black lads? Hint: very likely nothing."
3) Stan commenting on how young black mean are to be feared:
"There is a valid reason why people lock their doors in the presence of young black men."
4) "Black crimes" again:
"These boys will receive justice due to the filming of the event. Most victims of black crimes are not so lucky."
5) Stan attempt at humor perhaps?
"Are you aware of my race? Remember, it is commonly claimed that black people cannot be racist. So just maybe an apology might be in order?"
6) Or Stan not understanding why a comment is racist?
"...relieved when he turns around and finds that the people running up behind him are young white men."
7) FINALLY, not a quote, but a general statement about how Stan wrote a bunch of things of other topics since he tries to bring other things in the area to avoid answering for his racist comments. This further supports this idea that he IS actually racist. He is too dumb to see which of his comments are racists. He could be write about everything else he writes about Democrats or Republicans or anybody else he likes or not. It does not matter. He is still a FUCKING RACIST. Period!
Steven, can you explain why all of these 6 comments were not racists?
Can you explain why Stan would bring up other topics instead of explaining why he did not mean to sound racist? (Since after all, that's what he is "supposed" to care about right? He insists that he is 'note' racists but others are!!)
NO?? YOU CANNOT?
THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP STEVEN!
Naturalist there is becoming a parody of himself. Is he real?
A Naturalist,
I will say this again:
Black leaders ignore black on black crime. They do NOT organize 100 city marches against black on black crime.
Your attempt to suppress this issue and any conversation about it with your shouting and sanctimony is irrational and indicative of your innnate totalitarian, dishonest, mental warping.
Either provide actual evidence that the assertion regarding the racist racial focus of black leaders is false, or shut up yourself.
You appear to be roughly nine years old; if your behavior continues in the same vein, you will not be allowed to continue to comment here.
Provide evidence, or leave. Your choice.
A Naturalist,
What I would like from you is something of substance other than childish name-calling.
What conversation do YOU want to have? You have provided nothing of substance whatsoever here. You have been going on for quite awhile with your schoolyard behavior - can you write anything which contributes to a defense of Leftist behaviors? You have done nothing of the sort up to this point. All you have done is to assert schoolyard bully-type shouting.
If you can be rational, then do it. Provide a rational defense of specific Leftist behaviors which have been criticised here. If not, then this is not the place for you or your behaviors.
@A. Naturalist:
"NO?? YOU CANNOT?
THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP STEVEN!"
Hahaha! Typical rant from another internet troll. Pose several questions, then answer them him/her/itself. Then cuss some more. Talk about a one-sided conversation. "LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU MISTER RACIST LA-LA-LA"
How telling. A. Naturalist is here to vent and not converse. But I think the rest of us already knew that.
@A. Naturalist
I think Stan is just trying to point out the issue of political correctness in our society. If a group of white kids ganged up on and jumped a black kid in a school bus, our society would immediately react as if was a racist attack and maybe rightfully so. But on the other hand, when the reverse happens and a white kid is jumped by black kids, there are no racial implications or the racial implications are ignored. This is a form of racism in itself as it descriminates against whites (in saying they cannot be victims of racism in our society) and ultimately championing black people as the morally superior race by default, which is not always the case.
There is a demonstration here of another type of Leftist antirational attack: "you are too stupid/racist to even know that you are racist". This is actually a thread running through Leftist rants, and it is a purposeful elevation of the accuser to a supposed postion of omniscience which allows him/her to "see" racism where no one else can see it.
This is associated with the idea that no white can experience invisible racism because only blacks and Leftists (honorary blacks) can see it. Conservative blacks are "not black enough" to see the invisible racism which they have adopted themselves into by accepting the racist conservative position.
The conspiracy theory amounts to this: if there were no conservatives, all blacks would be prosperous.
That ingnores the fact that the Left demonstrably destroys wealth (Detroit, inflation, high minimum wage, bloated non-producing government), while the conservatives are producing it. Without conservatives the Left would turn all of the nation into Detroit, with no one left to bail it out.
Blacks are persecuted by Leftist policies, while consuming goods and largesse produced by non-Leftists.
Yet they vote for the Left, because the non-Left is vilified as invisible racist by the ever-tolerant Left.
@Stan
I think it's because there is a racist undertone that resonates with some conservatives in saying that black people are violent, uneducated, ruthless etc. because they are an inherently inferior race, and it's that undertone which is fought against by the leftists.
@A. Naturalist
I suspect that if someone was racist, they would admit that they were racist. And If they thought racism is defensible, they would defend it. Much like an atheist tries to defend atheism. And a feminist tries to defend their believing that men are inferior.
TYPO!!!
You wrote that a comment from a black man cannot be racist against black since he is 'black'.
A Naturalist,
Try reading for meaning. Obama has not addressed the video has he? It is because he is a Leftist racist, not because he is black. The Leftist leaders, many of whom are black, are the topic here.
You see racism where it does not exist precisely because you ARE the speech police. If your misinterpretation offends you, then you scream moral imprecations at the top of your sanctimonious, self-righteous font. You are either a PC Prude or a complete phony.
Your ignorance of meaning, even if feigned, hampers your judgment, and your personal elitist arrogance in the absence of rational judgment allows you to judge others as if you are their God. But you are not only not a god of any type, you are also ignorant of the basic anti-racist thread being proposed here.
I suspect that you are smarter than you choose to appear, and that you have chosen to disrupt this attack on racism - Leftist racism - by screaming your obscenities and juvenile accusations.
You will not succeed. You have provided, and continue to provide exactly nothing but your own mistaken, arrogant and phony Morality Play. I have come to even doubt that you have a fixed set of morals outside of the Alinsky consequentialist attack tactic.
Your demonstration of the paucity of Leftist tolerance and ethics has been conveniently instructive, but it is time for you to beat a different dead horse.
A Naturalist,
I had not read this before I replied above:
"You understood that I am not here to converse. Good boy!
Thank you for nothing internet troll!"
You are done here; your intentions are clear.
Adios
A Naturalist... has joined the other parties banned from this blog.
@A. Naturalist
"You are right, it is just as racist! Bring it up if you see people mentioning things like that, why not?"
"Wow Stan, you really went far with this one.
Why would anybody bring up race regarding such brutal attack on a child!?"
Is it just me?
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