Thursday, September 18, 2008

Believing in Clearly False Things

How Many Fallacies Can You Spot Here?
There is a movement afoot that declares Americans to be stupidly adhering to false beliefs, out of their control due to evolved traits of inherited belief genes.

The following ABC story starts like this:

“Why do so many people hold beliefs that are clearly false? A recent story on ABCNews.com said 80 million Americans believe we have been visited by aliens from another planet, and numerous studies show that millions of people believe in ghosts, extrasensory perception and, of course, alien abductions.”

“According to biologist Lewis Wolpert of University College, London, all those beliefs are clearly false, and they all share a common beginning. It may well have started when the first human realized he, or she, could make a fire by rubbing two sticks together.”

The article is accompanied by a picture of cavemen, entirely unrelated except by inference. Wolpert, who acknowledges his atheism, proceeds to wind a tale of his own evidence-free belief, that of evolution of the belief in weird things. As in all evolution stories, the narrative is salted with statements in the form of X “gave rise to” Y, with a complete vacuum of evidence to back up the claim.

Only in evolutionary science could a person be called a “scientist”, and get away with such stuff.

In actuality the basic premises are logically faulty. Take this one for example:

“Why do so many people hold beliefs that are clearly false?”
What is implied here is that falseness is a definite outcome of an empirical investigation, performed by Atheists / Materialists. But this is clearly not a rational conclusion. None of the mentioned “clearly false beliefs” can be proven one way or the other given current evidence. So the premise is biased toward a preconceived outcome, and the investigation is fabricated on that – false – substrate.

Perhaps these beliefs are, indeed, false. They are not, however, clearly false. They are assumed false due to lack of evidence, perceived low probability of occurrence, and Philosophical Materialism.

Since Philosophical Materialism is logically false due to being self-contradictory and non-coherent, then perhaps these beliefs are known to be false due to lack of evidence and low probability of occurrence. But lack of evidence and low probability of occurrence also plague evolution itself, especially abiogenesis, the only possible material source of First Life.

So the real issue is probability of the beliefs, not that they are clearly false. To a person who has experienced "something" that an atheist scientist has not experienced, the probability of the existence of that "something" is high. The scientist is not rationally able to claim that it is "clearly false"; yet they persist in doing so.

In fact, the most improbable beliefs of all are Philosophical Materialism, Atheism, evolution, including abiogenesis. No one has experienced these things, yet these beliefs are taken to be true, not only true, but the basis for science and the attempts to destroy other belief systems. This is a sure sign of irrationality and illogic. It should not be considered science.

12 comments:

Darron S said...

"To a person who has experienced "something" that an atheist scientist has not experienced, the probability of the existence of that "something" is high. The scientist is not rationally able to claim that it is "clearly false"; yet they persist in doing so."

Argument from Personal Experience. So you would argue that the probability for the existince of Big Foot, Aliens, Nessy, Flying Spaghetti Monsters, etc is high? Based on personal experience? I'd like to have some of what you're smoking so that I can have some "experiences" of my own! lol! Silly evolution-denier!

Zetetic_chick said...

According to biologist Lewis Wolpert of University College, London, all those beliefs are clearly false

Wolpert is being intentionally dishonest and prejudiced. In his debate with Rupert Sheldrake on telepathy, Wolpert said: "I certainly do not have an open mind. Open minds are very bad … everything falls out! So, I don’t have an open mind. It may be a stupid cliché, but on the other hand, too much openness gets you absolutely nowhere. I mean, I don’t have to believe in fairies and angels and all the nonsense other people … or astrology or telepathy"

http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/RSA_text.html

So, Wolpert's opinion about telepathy is based upon an ideological prejudice, an attitude of "I don't have to believe in". He's expressing a personal belief, not a scientific position based on evidence.

Another fallacy of Wolpert is mix up telepathy with "angels" and fairies, a clearly ignorant (or dishonest?) opinion. He uses the pseudo-skeptical tactic known of "debunkery by association", to rhetorically imply, by means of direct suggestion or innuendo, that serious scientific research into anomalous phenomena are no more credible than stories about angels, fairies or astrology.

It's a well known rhetorical tactic of organized "skeptics":

http://www.suppressedscience.net/skepticism.html

In fact, in the debate, Sheldrake confronted Wolpert with empirical evidence for telepathy, and Wolpert couldn't rebutted it. He offered not scientific arguments, only opinions and vague speculations.

That debated exposed Wolpert's ideological prejudice, ignorance on psi research and closed mind.

Even if those anomalous phenomena don't exist, Wolpert's "arguments" are pure pseudo-skeptical sophistry.

Not science.

Stan said...

darron s said,
"Argument from Personal Experience. So you would argue that the probability for the existince of Big Foot, Aliens, Nessy, Flying Spaghetti Monsters, etc is high? Based on personal experience?"

darron, I'm sure your argument made sense to you, but it makes no sense to me. I have not experienced those things myself, and no one has claimed to have experienced a FSM. However, if you are claiming a fallacy called "Argument from Personal Experience", then you might reference the source for that. As far as I know, personal experience is the entire argument against ID: "We haven't experienced gods making things, so we cannot posit that there are such things." Surely if that argument is good enough for evolutionists, it would be good enough for you.

Personal experience is also the argument for Materialism which is identical to Atheism: "If I can't test it, with either my own senses or extensions of them, then it does not exist, because there is no reality beyond the material".

So your argument against personal experience works more against evolution, Atheism and Materialism than it does against individual personal experiences.

It is probable that the interpretation of a great many anomolous personal experiences can be explained in the material realm; we cannot know that, however, because they can't be tested. However, it is not rational to deny that a large group which experiences the same anomoly did not in fact experience it, just because there was no scientist/skeptic there at the time.

Stan said...

zetetic_chick,
Thanks for your comment, apparently Wolpert is more of an atheist activist than he is a scientist.

Zetetic_chick said...

Stan,

To illustrate my above point, I'll give a couple of quotes of Wolpert. My point isn't to support telepathy as a proven fact (even thought I accept some of the scientific evidence for it) but to expose Wolpert's inconsistences.

At the final of the debate with Shaldrake, Wolpert said: "Well, I’m afraid, just saying that someone’s discredited, doesn’t actually make him discredited. Although I think telepathy is discredited, doesn’t necessarily make it discredited."

But in the ABC story, Wolpert is quoted as saying "all those beliefs (inluding beliefs in telepathy) are clearly false"

For critical thinkers, zetetics and logicians: How can be Wolpert's personal opinion that "Although I think telepathy is discredited, doesn’t necessarily make it discredited" made logically consistent with the assertion about belief in telepathy as "clearly false"?

Another of Wolpert's claims is: "Yes, I think if I actually experienced repeatedly, a telepathic experience where somebody could actually transmit to me, something really extraordinary, I would have to rethink my position, yes, certainly, but not into telephoning, sorry"

Keep in mind that Wolpert would accept his own personal experience as evidence to rethink his position on telepathy.

For critical thinkers: Why should personal experiences of many people about telepathic experiences be considered as "clearly false", if Wolpert would accept his own personal experience as evidence for rethink their own position?

Do you note any inconsistence or irrationality here?

ZC

Anonymous said...

"Argument from Personal Experience. So you would argue that the probability for the existince of Big Foot, Aliens, Nessy, Flying Spaghetti Monsters, etc is high? Based on personal experience?"

Surely the atheist belief in their own rationality is also a type of argument from personal experience - they are rational because they say so!

The materialist insists on evidence from the theist yet never gets around to providing measurable evidence of their own raionality - we're all supposed to take that on faith.

BTW - Stan this is a great blog!

Stan said...

Many years ago, before I had really given much thought to the issue of personal experience and the probability of validity, I came across a fascinating newspaper article concerning Oregon fire tower observers. These folks spent many nights observing the night scenery for signs of fire. They were having a convention and the article reported some of the topics that they discussed. Toward the end of the article it was mentioned rather casually that the observation session devolved into an excited discussion of unidentified lights that most if not all the tower observers had seen. Being familiar with aircraft and their movement properties, they claimed that these were not aircraft and that they moved horizon to horizon far faster than any aircraft. There was no attempt to explain or deny these things, they just were. They were excited to know that others had also seen them.

At that point I realized that I could not deny them for any rational reason either. That doesn't mean that they are alien, are from mars or anything like that. It just means that the unexplained cannot rationally be denied just because it conflicts with a cherished belief system.

I also realized that the probability of a valid observation goes up considerably in proportion to the number of observers reporting it. This still says nothing about the nature of the entity observed, only that it probably really was observed.

Materialism denies the observation out of hand. This is another indication of the false basis of materialism.

Stan said...

anonymous, thanks and welcome!
Stan

Zetetic_chick said...

Stan, maybe my following comment is off-topic, but I think it has connection with this post.

Have you thought about writting on Hume's argument against miracles?

I think Hume's argument beg the question against the existence of miracles; also, his argument seems to be inconsistent with his own argument on induction, because he assumes the "uniformity" of experience to reject miracles claims; but "uniformity" of experience implies 1)that people haven't experienced any miracles (so, it begs the question) and 2)that validity of the uniformity of past experiences will repeat itself in the future (but it only can be assumed by induction of common past experiences to natural laws that will force the same uniformity in the future).

For the record, I don't defend (or believe) in miracles, but I don't discard them a priori; simply, I think a non-materialistic science (or philosophy) eventually could explain so-called miracles (if they exist)as part of a spiritual reality (whether or not we accept the concept of God, because spirituality isn't exclusive of theism).

Anomalous phenomena (like psi, ufos, precognition, etc.) aren't miracles, because they don't suppose a "divine" origin. (In fact, most scientific researchers on psi consider telepathy and other psi phenomena like extraordinary human abilities related to consciousness or unexplored mental capabilities, not as "divine miracles").

Certainly, some people (specially religious ones) could interpret some anomalous personal experiences as "a manifestation of God", but it's only their personal subjetive interpretation.

Sorry if my english is a little bit broken...

ZC

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Stan said...

ZC, your English is quite good, and your thoughts are quite appreciated. I will take the Hume idea under consideration, interesting thought. Thanks.

Stan said...

Winston, Thanks for the link and the compliments... always appreciated. I'll check it out, maybe tomorrow.