How to get deleted from an atheist forumThere are interesting conclusions at the site. Apparently the religion of logic and evidence could not produce either logic or evidence to refute the argument. So they did the censorship approach to prevent the logic of the argument from spreading.
"There’s an argument about the consequences of unbelief that many atheists struggle to accept, but which carries some force. Indeed, a friend of mine recently made this argument on the Facebook page of the Richard Dawkins’ Foundation for Science and Reason and got himself summarily deleted and expelled from the group.
The argument is simple: atheism cannot provide a logical warrant for love of all humankind. Here’s how my friend put it in the Dawkins forum:
Atheists don’t believe people are a special or privileged species. In other words, we are no different to slugs. When atheists (like Stalin) treat people like slugs, they are being quite consistent with their philosophy.
Christians do believe people are special and privileged. We are God's “children”, and have inherent value and dignity. When we treat others badly, we are being *inconsistent* with our philosophy.
“Love your neighbor” doesn’t follow logically from atheism. It’s not integral to that philosophy. It does follow logically from Christianity, and is absolutely integral.
If “There is no God,” then “Love your neighbor” is optional.
If “Christ is Lord”, then “Love your neighbor” is fundamental.
I can see how atheists could have taken offence at the connection between atheism and Stalin. But, of course, my friend was not saying all atheists are ‘Stalinesque’ any more than he was implying that all Christians are like Mother Theresa and love their neighbour. His point is entirely about the logical warrant for behaviour. Even if we conceded that, in practice, atheists were better human beings than Christians, that would not change the logical force of the argument at all."
Friday, July 4, 2014
Here is an interesting argument which apparently hurt so bad that it was removed from Dawkins' forum.
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I think those are all good points, Stan, but I disagree about what you suggested might be their motivation.
In a typical atheist echo-chamber (which exists solely on the internet and solely for the edification of faithful atheists), posting ANY comment which disagrees with atheism and cannot be 'answered' by sneer, insult or mockery - is deleted immediately.
It cuts off potential discussion right away. You never get your say - it's their forum and they WILL do what they have to, in order to maintain their irrational fantasy world.
I don't think they care one whit whether the argument spreads. They are and have always been, rejectionists. And lazy. If they can't dismiss it with a lazy wave of the hand, they hit the delete key.
Never fails. But thanks for posting it! Nice to see the enemy has not changed - and that their weakness is what it always was.
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