Sunday, January 4, 2015

Why Atheists Are Not Trusted.

This study confirms the analysis which has been made here on this blog: "Atheist As Other". It is shown in many polls that Atheists are trusted at levels commensurate with child molesters. This study, done in 2006, gives support for that lack of trust, and enumerates the reasons why that is the case.
"In these interviews, the atheist emerges as a
culturally powerful “other” in part because the
category is multivalent (Turner 1974), loaded
with multiple meanings. For all these respondents,
atheists represent a general lack of morality,
but for some, this lack was associated with
criminality and its dangers to safety and public
order, while for others the absence of morality
was that of people whose resources or positions
place them above the common standards
of mainstream American life.
To put it somewhat
differently, atheists can be symbolically placed
at either end of the American status hierarchy.
What holds these seemingly contradictory views
together is that the problem of the atheist was
perceived to be a problem of self-interest, an
excessive individualism that undermines trust
and the public good. In this, our respondents
draw the same link between religion and the
taming of self-interest that Tocqueville wrote
about over a century ago (Tocqueville [1992]
2000, see especially volume 2, parts I and II).
It is important to note that our respondents did
not refer to particular atheists whom they had
encountered. Rather they used the atheist as a
symbolic figure to represent their fears about
those trends in American life—increasing criminality,
rampant self-interest, an unaccountable
elite—that they believe undermine trust and a
common sense of purpose.

In recent public discourse, atheists take on a
similar symbolic role. We found that the figure
of the atheist is invoked rhetorically to discuss
the links—or tensions—among religion, morality,
civic responsibility, and patriotism. In particular,
the association of the atheist with a kind
of unaccountable elitism
has surfaced in recent
public debates. The civically engaged atheists’
awareness of the negative stereotypes of atheists
has led to the coining of a new term,
“Brights,”
around which to identify and organize
and thus, according to one prominent Bright,
to challenge the association between atheism,
immorality, and lack of civic commitment. One
of those advocates has gone so far as to claim
the following:7
Many of the nation’s clergy members are closet
brights, I suspect. We are, in fact, the moral backbone
of the nation:
brights take their civic duties
seriously precisely because they don’t trust God to
save humanity from its follies (Dennett 2003).
In a review of the book The Twilight of
Atheism, Charlotte Allen (2004) not only associates
atheism with totalitarianism
but also sees
this notion of the “Brights” as particularly troubling
because of the intersection of science with
big money and the ability to influence public
policy.
She worries if atheism,
“may yet be experiencing a new dawn: a terrifying new
alliance with money and power, of a kind even
Marx could not have foreseen

[Emphasis added]
The danger to civilized society comes not from biker gangs and other bottom feeding ne'er-do-wells who are de facto Atheists; it comes from the elites for whom no objective moral code applies. These are now found throughout government and big money lobbying and financial institutions.

No amount of whining that they are "good without God" can serve to overcome their obvious lack of objective moral principles, or any kind of morals at all save making their own personal behaviors into "moral principles". Atheists seem to think that people who do have actual objective moral principles against which their behaviors are measured cannot see the difference (possibly because Atheists themselves cannot). So Atheists demand moral parity at a minimum, and ultimately promote themselves to moral supremacy since they cannot fail to be moral under their own tautological moral system.

This amounts to pure irrationality, and increases the distance between Atheists and the rest of the human race.

Further, Atheists tend very strongly to Leftist anti-American standards; it is the Atheists who engage in elitist totalitarian Othering of the bulk of Americans. That's how Marxism works, on its way toward totalitarian control: "othering" while claiming to be the saviors of those who are Othered.

Atheists are held in total disregard because their lack of principles (both moral and intellectual) renders them completely incompatible with a principled society. Atheists respond that principles are discriminatory, an irrational position which serves only to lock in the disregard with which they are held... and deserve.

It is arguable that Atheists start as damaged and broken people who go on to attempt to damage and break entire social structures in order to normalize themselves, even to be able to view themselves as "saviors" of society by reducing it to their own level of moral and intellectual chaos.

Remember that it was Silverman who declared in a federal lawsuit that the mere sight of the 9/11 "cross" damaged Atheists by giving them dyspepsia. That their rationalizations are so entirely irrational completely escapes them, proving their irrationality.

2 comments:

Unknown said...

This is more of a general comment about aspects of this article rather than a comment on the article itself.

I'm wondering what the argument for this would be from the standpoint of the atheist/atheist groups.
What I gathered from this particular article struck me as strange. On one hand some Atheists (perhaps in general) lack a moral compass, and dwell within this great "void often spoken of, wherein they are accountable ultimately only to themselves and no one else. In this capacity they would seem to be unable to function on any level outside of strict narcissism.

On the other hand however, they seem quite capable of working in together to achieve their ultimate goal when necessary. (When I refer to "their ultimate goal" I'm speaking about groups of Atheists who have any kind of agenda, not for all Atheists.)

If Atheists have no principle to follow, have no specific code to maintain overall, then how is it that they are able to function as a group? Like any group that may be formed they will have those who are of differing opinions inside the group naturally; but they also develop a loyalty to their group. How exactly would loyalty from an Atheist in this situation be reconcilable to the terms of Atheist moral and ethical codes of conduct, if they don't have any to begin with?

This is something I have been looking at a lot lately. I'm positive that a materialist argument would be given that are similar to all the ones that have been stated in the past. That Humans naturally work together, and those that work together the best ultimately succeed totally.

The concept of humans hunting in groups for food is acceptable to me, as is the idea of humans as "lone wolves" who are single minded and narcissistic, but I cannot reconcile narcissistic packs of human beings; the very idea seems to be contradictory.

The only conclusion I can personally come to, is that such cooperation in Atheistic groups must be "hive mind" in nature, insomuch that an ideological continuity is formed and the group starts to get traction " siphonophore like". A colonial organism comprised of many single sub entities that gravitate toward one another for no other reason than to feel important within themselves; thereby justifying their individual voidism.

This seems to make the most sense, as the actions taken by some Atheist groups as well as leftist groups often appear to have the same tone of strange or even outlandish behavior one would expect from a creature with no eyes, no ears and no morals to speak of. I understand herd mentality can happen to anyone, including the religious, but I see the most absurd things coming from groups proclaiming to be Atheist or leftist who are by their very nature extremists in general. Similar behavior can be seen within some religions and especially those religions with high tolerance for extremism, or where fanaticism is most prosperous.

So I believe the question is "how does one justify being out of control?" The answer perhaps: Join a group of out of control people and become a force.

Stan said...

Cameron O,
I had to laugh at the thought of packs of narcissists running around.

But you have gotten to the core, I think. Atheists have a need to be superior, exceptional and elite for whatever emotional reason. They wind up having many things in common with each other, certainly starting with rejecting the common wisdom on their personal journeys to be seen as exceptional. They have rejected the same things, and accepted their own resulting elitism as one of the signs of differentiation from the common.

Usually they are not actually exceptional in any way, so they must seek this path to create the image for themselves and others.

They are able to recognize other faux elitists with common rejectionist attitudes to their own. They form common moral authorities, first to deride common morals, common life and common thought, then to create their own form of pseudo morality for application to the commoners (but not the elites). They bolster each other first by the confirmation of their eliteness by association with other "elites", and then by giving each other prizes (Dawkins to his minions) and hyped up reviews and other ego massages.

It is not necessary for them to run in groups, because they can run separately and still give each other the confidence that they all are superior creatures.

The internet helps them gather online for mutual ego orgasms.

They begin to police the "elite" by attacking with full force any elite who deviates from the new moral principles. This tightens the elite into a semblance of a moral entity, one which is maintained by the emotional weakness and fear of losing eliteness if deposed from the high ranks of presumed superiority. At that point peer pressure controls those who must maintain the image of superiority to the herd.

That doesn't mean that they run in packs, side by side; it just means that there is an affinity which draws them into this mutually beneficial arrangement of faux elitness and moral rectitude.