Sunday, February 19, 2017

Scriba Dei and Loving The Truth: "The Nigger Question"



And this:
Scriba Dei, at Vox Day's Place.

15 comments:

Zach said...

This guy is a complete self-hater and completely ignorant of the real discrimination that does exist in America today. The worst quote must be that line roughly halfway through: 'they never stop to investigate whether or not the ill they decry can be explained by the actions and attitudes of their own people.' Actually, he should stop and investigate! Yes, there are bad Black people, but they are disproportionally victims of oppression even today. This clip is a travesty.

Watch the documentary "The 13th", and not just the trailer, if you want all the facts and supporting evidence. I don't think you can though, I don't think you will, it's unbearable to watch for White Supremacists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V66F3WU2CKk
https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741

Steven Satak said...

You had me until you labeled someone 'a complete self-hater'. That's when I realized you were a snowflake on a tear.

And yes, that was four words into your screed, so no, I don't give you any credibility at all. You show too many signs of being a typical SJW.

Bet you're an atheist, too.

Stan said...

Zach, you are not well-spoken enough, nor analytical enough, to be a psychologist; so your "self hater" statement is not originated in any analysis of an actual disorder. What you did was to immediately place the individual into a Class. You did so in order to attempt to diminish his cultural status by the use of an Ad Hominem Abusive Fallacy, i.e., a purposeful smear which is so obvious as to be childish.

Then you quote a sentence, declaring it "worst", without any reasoning behind that prejudice at all. Instead you claim that he should do X, while not seeming to notice that he did it throughout, presenting data.

And you immediately jump to Narrative: RACISM. Again an empty charge, no data, no evidence, not even an anecdote to support your abjectly empty belief. The charge of RACISM is too cheap, too empty, a complete VOID of data. It is the Left's go-to Ad Hominem Abusive for any disagreement over the status of reality.

You then use the go-to empty VOID charge, "white supremacist" without any knowledge of the race of the people to which you are complaining, the racial mixture of their families, friends, colleagues, etc.

You deal in cartoons, because those are the things which match your desires: you need the hate. The cartoons are something to hate.

Why do you hate cartoons?

What does such hatred do for you?

Explain why!

Stan said...

Re: the 13th.
If the trailer is any indication at all of the content of the film, then this is what is being touted as Truth:

Blacks are unjustly imprisoned. Evidence? Well, there are too many blacks in prison.

Is that evidence? No. It is an appeal to emotions, an incorrect use of statistics. The question is this: Why are they in prison? Are they all innocent? Are there Jim Crow laws which demand more of blacks than of whites?

No. The laws are equal for blacks and whites. And that is why there is the cry for acknowledging that blacks cannot behave, culturally, like whites.

That's why federal school systems no longer punish blacks for in-school violence. Too many blacks were incarcerated for in-school violence, so the solution was to NOT apply the law to blacks.

All the violence shown in the trailer was historical violence by Democrat governments and their minions, acted upon the black community.

You said you don't care about the history of violence upon blacks - then you refer to a movie which does care, and uses it as if all people do that to blacks, even today.

You seem very confused about what you believe, and what the evidence actually says about reality.

The video above gives statistical data, from government files. If that data is incorrect, give definitive proof - data and reasoning - why it is incorrect. And then give valid information as to why your opinions are correct.

So far you have given nothing but hate-filled opinion, based on caricatures which do not match reality in any manner.

Robert Coble said...

Zach is a waste of time, a mere golem. Describing it as Gollum would mistakenly elevate it far above its stature in the pantheon of fools. It should follow its beliefs and remove itself from the gene pool because of its obvious inferiority. But, it won't because one of its core beliefs is the necessity for it to be one of the Messiahs who save the Victims from those nasty Oppressors.

My Precious Dindus! My Precious Gimmedats! My Precious Imagrunts!

"Oppressors, Oppressors, Oppressors! Oppressor Stan! We hates it, we hates it, we hates it forever!"

Zach said...

There you go, you just proved my point! None of you losers here! You are too scared of the facts, too scared of looking at reality in the eye. Yes, the evidence is presented in the documentary. Yes, they explain why your simplistic view that 'The laws are equal for blacks and whites' is not correct. You are completely ignoring the biases that exist in the application of those laws. That is the problem. Will you try to understand that?

No, because you are clearly 3 white supremacists who agree with bullshit like this 'And that is why there is the cry for acknowledging that blacks cannot behave, culturally, like whites.' How freaking racist can one be? I cannot believe I am reading these words in 2017. I cannot believe you have your head so far up your arse that you cannot see that it is not that blacks are fundamentally different, but that they have been subject to fundamentally different treatments. It has become better, but we are decades from true equal rights, true equal treatment, true application of the law to all in the same way.

Will you watch the documentary? Will you look at the evidence? Of course not, you will stick to the preview precisely the way I said you would, because you are afraid of the truth. You guys are the snowflakes here, the ones who cannot be criticized, you won't look at what's going on, who pretend they just know everything that there is to know about how people of different color are treated in this countries.

You 3 are clowns who present nothing of value. And no, I don't even consider myself an Atheists, that's how I ran into this blog, trying to find some interesting information of what it means and why. Well if being an Atheist means that I am not in your camp, so be it, call me an Atheist if you want, I don't care, but I will not bother engaging with racists white supremacists anymore.

Arthur said...

Why don't you just ignore this fool!?!? shame on you for even entertaining his points! and I did watch The 13th. there's is only one part that's great about it. It's when they show how the negros are to be dealt with the way they really are, criminals, or more like animals to be controlled. Sorry but not sorry! That's just the way it is! Slavery was cruel but at least it gave them order. there are so few today that manage to live & work like normal people...

Stan said...

Zach,
I'll address just one of your points, this comment:
"'And that is why there is the cry for acknowledging that blacks cannot behave, culturally, like whites.' How freaking racist can one be?"

That was not my statement. That is a position straight out of the Leftist culture war. It was repeated over and over during the Baltimore uprising and burning, as the reason that blacks should not be policed, tried, and incarcerated under "white laws" for civil culture.

To repeat your conclusion, "How freaking racist can one be?"

This was white, Democrat talk. Social Justice Warrior talk. Defending the "black culture" of the ghetto. Not anyone else. Your interpretation is the same as mine: racist to the core. But you didn't know the source, did you?

What you assumed was completely wrong. Just as the Leftists encouraging the Baltimore riots assume that the ghetto culture is a valid expression of black identity - they, THEY are the racists.

You fell into a semantic trap... due to your false assumption.

You also have fallen into other traps, as well. You don't care about the history of the Race Suppression Party. You likely believe that maintaining ghettos as all Democrat run cities do (except San Francisco, which ran them off) is a benefit to blacks, who live in ghettos: why?

Have you asked yourself why they live in ghettos? Do they like the quaint atmosphere? The rampant "free love" which produces more ghetto dwellers? The thrill of the daily drive-bys? The mind-disabling drugs which their children sell? The rap music which glorifies murder and rape?

Do they like it there? If not, why are they there? You have all the answers, so tell us, why do they live in ghettos? After all, they risk their lives to live there.

I have no interest in your Atheism/Not Atheism. Your mind is set. You do not present data, you depend on the narrative of a video, and if it is Class War, then you buy it.

I will watch the video. You presented only the trailer, and I watched what you presented. I'm not afraid of propaganda; I'm able to analyze before accepting. That is the basis of rational thought.



Stan said...

Arthur,
I'll watch video. I disagree that very few blacks are able to assimilate into civil western society. There are many who have realized their situation, and have left for the other side, the side of western culture and actual conservative tolerance, as opposed to the fake tolerance of the Left.

I don't know how many, but that there are those have assimilated, it is tacit proof that blacks are capable of it, and that it is not incapacity that keeps them on the Leftist Plantation Ghettos. There is a vast chasm between the assimilated black and the ghetto black.

Blacks, including assimilated blacks, have a serious problem, because they are being characterized as a class of victims who have a righteous Right to violence because of the color of their skin, vs. the color of white skin. The color of white skin oppresses the color of their skin as an all-new "fact of nature": skin color privilege.

This creates the situation where it cannot be known in advance whether the black person walking behind me is acculturated and assimilated, or is violently hostile to my skin tone. Worry and distrust have been installed by the Left.

The data shows that blacks kill whites far more than vice-versa. The SJW Left says, sure! That's because whites all oppress blacks by the nature of their skin-tone privilege.

Hence, whites deserve it.

Those blacks who actually are acculturated and assimilated into western society have to live in that Leftist designed atmosphere of distrust, hate, and shame/blame/name-calling. Witness the shame/blame/name-calling of Zach, just above.

The Leftist Cloward/Piven drive for cultural chaos has been fully implemented, starting with the government school Marxist indoctrination of the justification for Class War. Distrust is instilled early in American education.

The blacks are, indeed victims. They are victims specifically of the Leftist Marxists who know better than anyone else how to destroy a culture in order to save it for the utopia. The blacks are the Democrat/Leftist leverage, the racial lever, for distrust, tribalism, and resulting violence which the Left fervently desires - and blames on the Other.

That worked so well in the USSR (RIP), China, Cambodia, Cuba, Chile, Argentina, Venezuela, etc. It will work even better in the USA, they are convinced of it.

Zach is a poster boy for the Leftist foment of distrust and hate. He is easily confused, as he was just above by the source of the racism.

Unless he continues to falsely accuse, which he just might, of course, he can comment here. If he continues to falsely accuse even after his accusations are proven false, he could be removed. For now, I'll discuss with him.

Stan said...

Apparently watching the video, 13th, is not going to happen. Every link I find is linked back to some outfit that wants my credit card number for no good reason: they won't charge to it, they claim.

That's not happening. This whole thing sounds like a scam to steal credit card numbers.

Unless Zach shows me a way to access the video without giving my credit card away, then it's not going to happen.

Zach said...

Okkkkk since you seem to genuinely want to engage in a productive way on that topic, let me bite! First off, do not give your credit card number anywhere but on Netflix, but there is really nothing risky about them obviously, and you can get 1 month free to try it out. I hope you know that it’s a legit company. It sucks that there is no fully free version available as Netflix stated that they allow for public screening for classrooms for instance.

You said:
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That was not my statement. That is a position straight out of the Leftist culture war. It was repeated over and over during the Baltimore uprising and burning, as the reason that blacks should not be policed, tried, and incarcerated under "white laws" for civil culture.

To repeat your conclusion, "How freaking racist can one be?"

This was white, Democrat talk. Social Justice Warrior talk. Defending the "black culture" of the ghetto. Not anyone else. Your interpretation is the same as mine: racist to the core. But you didn't know the source, did you?

What you assumed was completely wrong. Just as the Leftists encouraging the Baltimore riots assume that the ghetto culture is a valid expression of black identity - they, THEY are the racists.

You fell into a semantic trap... due to your false assumption.
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You are being disingenuous and inferring meaning that is not there. There is such a thing as black culture and no reason to force Blacks to act like White but that does not mean that Blacks should have their own rule. You are making that part up or quoting extremists who don’t want to be law abiding citizen. Nothing to do with the issue of Blacks who do abide by the law but are not treated the same as non-Blacks, nothing to do with the Blacks that do commit crimes, just like Whites do, but get more severe punishment.

Zach said...

Plus your comment is still filled with racism as your response to Arthur shows:
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I disagree that very few blacks are able to assimilate into civil western society. There are many who have realized their situation, and have left for the other side, the side of western culture and actual conservative tolerance, as opposed to the fake tolerance of the Left.

I don't know how many, but that there are those have assimilated, it is tacit proof that blacks are capable of it, and that it is not incapacity that keeps them on the Leftist Plantation Ghettos. There is a vast chasm between the assimilated black and the ghetto black.
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There is no need for Blacks to assimilate. This shows your racist bias. As if they were some minority that needs to learn a new language or act by the cultural standards of the Whites. This is not the case. Blacks and Whites and all other ethnicities need to respect the same laws and deserve to be treated the same by the Law. Talking about assimilation implies that they need to change. You are blaming them, because of their race, for being different. You are doing what you say inly the intolerant Left does. You are right about some of them, some of these intolerant Leftists exist, but you act the same here with your speech.

In short you try to dodge the issue of systemic discrimination that still exist today, you ignore the racism that put Blacks behind on average in terms of income of education and, just like the regressive Left, target the Black race as a cause instead of acknowledging that it's the Whites that have been in power forever that caused the issues.

Stan said...

”Nothing to do with the issue of Blacks who do abide by the law but are not treated the same as non-Blacks,”

Too general a statement. Specifics are required in order to analyze the merits of the charge. Perhaps you have done so below.

”There is no need for Blacks to assimilate. This shows your racist bias.”

Then you agree with the sentiment which you already called racist. You have blatantly contradicted yourself. And no matter what I say, you will knee-jerk your expletive-of-choice: racist. And that is in fact what your opinion, right here, indicates: ghetto blacks don’t have to assimilate into the culture in which they live as parasites. As a corollary, their blackness represents a culture of parasitic, violence and values which are not those of the western whites, but all cultures are equal… right?

Your opinion of blacks, therefore, is racially biased: consummately racist.

”As if they were some minority that needs to learn a new language or act by the cultural standards of the Whites.”

If they cannot communicate in the society in which they live, how are they to have any success, any relationship which is beneficial, any way out of the ghetto at all? They obviously cannot, and that breeds resentment which breeds hate and violence. They ARE a minority, and there is just one way out of the ghetto, which many blacks have successfully taken.

”This is not the case. Blacks and Whites and all other ethnicities need to respect the same laws and deserve to be treated the same by the Law.”

Of course they should. This contradicts your previous two sentences.

It appears to me that you are talking about a different category than ghetto blacks. I don’t think I know who you are talking about. Have you abandoned the ghetto blacks and decided to pursue some other sub-sub-category? If so, then this entire conversation is without any meaning.

Do you deny that the main issue is the successful assimilation of ghetto blacks into western culture in order that they may obtain good jobs and self-sufficiency as well as respect as they achieve? If so, why would you deny them that opportunity? Denying them that opportunity was the visible thrust of Obama, when he revoked the advanced schooling for excellent black students in DC – which he did in the same week that his own children were enrolled in the most exclusive school possible.

Stan said...

”Talking about assimilation implies that they need to change. You are blaming them, because of their race, for being different.”

That is absolutely FALSE, egregiously so, and is a blatant insult. I did no such thing.

Yes, assimilation does imply change, IF they want to leave the ghetto for the opportunity to compete for the means to that better life of which they appear to be envious. But they are the ones claiming that their culture is valid and must be respected regardless of its parasitic, violent, bloody, and ignorant features. What holds them back is just themselves.

Those two things are mutually exclusive and it is irrational to claim otherwise.

Again many blacks, even very many, have assimilated and have prospered: that alone falsifies the entire concept of systemic racism. With blacks in positions of responsibility in virtually every venue, the “systemic racism” complaint is visibly, obviously FALSE. If the charge had any content, then that content would be used rather than the umbrella term which has no specific meaning.

You came onto this blog shouting meaningless umbrella terms such as racist, white supremacists, fools, etc. Yet when it comes time to support your charge, you have only falseness to support it. That, then, is the fundamental definition of bigotry. If you are to escape that vision of yourself, you will need to actually support your specific charges with something that at least holds water. The following is a MAJOR example:

” you ignore the racism that put Blacks behind on average in terms of income of education and, just like the regressive Left, target the Black race as a cause instead of acknowledging that it's the Whites that have been in power forever that caused the issues.”

When I pointed out the historical racism of the white Democrat Party, you snidely denied the value of history to your personal worldview. Now you claim that I never did it.

Bigotry: pure bigotry. Based on total falsehood.

However, it is not just whites: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Ta He-Nisi Coates, Cornel West, John Lewis, Maxine Waters, Elijah Cummings, Keith Ellison, Charley Rangel, Sheila Jackson Lee and every Rap musician… they all profit from the ghetto. And they are all Leftocrats. Denying that some blacks profit from keeping ghetto blacks in the ghetto is the same as denying that before the Civil War, some blacks owned slaves, and owned large plantations which the slaves tended; i.e., it is false to deny it.

Zach said...

First off you call people name here on your blog and it's riddled with juvenile insults and silly jokes, so I don't give a flying f that your sensibilities are hurt by some comments I made... you snowflake.

But I also don't know whether you are actually a racist person or not. I cannot tell whether you would purposely discriminate against somehow, should you have the power to do so, only because they have a different skin color! However, you do say racist things and you cannot deny that you did, you could only correct. For instance, this notion of ghetto Blacks is racist because you would never discuss ghetto Whites, wouldn't you? Yet, there is no reason to discuss the skin color here as if it were an indication of who needs to assimilate or not, which is exactly what you are talking about. You are literally saying that Blacks need to act White to assimilate. This is as racist as a comment can be. Before you jump to it: this is not to say that there is no Black ghetto cultures, or not Black ghettos at all, it means that it's racist to claim that they need to change just because you associate them with crime, based on their skin color.

Will you try to watch The 13th? There is a quote in it that is so telling... here's an article about the same:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/

"We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."