Thursday, August 6, 2009

The Congressional Democrats placed a gag order on the release of the process diagram for the health/death plan which the Congressional Republicans wanted to send out to their constituents. For reasons unknown to me they reversed the gag order, and are allowing this information out to the public.

If you think that government run insurance will save money, consider the cost of the bereaucrats that will staff these functions. Consider also the time that it will take to negotiate this maze, and the liklihood that it will actually benefit you.

The Obama-forced destruction of the insurance industry is not a good thing.


6 comments:

Martin said...

Despite my skepticism of any government run ANYthing, you must agree that our current system needs SOME kind of overhall, no?

Stan said...

I do not agree even in the slightest. People are supposed to be responsible and take care of themselves. The government promotes itself as the caretaker, using "uninsured" people as the excuse. But examining who these "uninsureds" are leads one to think that that I will be paying for the irresponsibility of legions, just as I am now paying for the mortgage irresponsibiity of the Senate Finance Committee.

There are already programs for the disabled and the needy; if that is the problem then it is the fault of these gov't choked bureaucratic bucolic programs.

Plus a large share of the uninsureds turn out to be in-betweeners, who are between jobs and/or between policies.

So, no I don't agree.

Martin said...

I'm not saying the Obama plan is good, or that we should have socialized medicine, but we spend WAY more than any other country on health care and yet have less people covered. I think it's something like twice as much spent as any other industrialized nation for half as many people covered.

This is good? The current system is perfect?

Anonymous said...

No not perfect by any means but here's a couple points to ponder:
1) Why Does a BMW or similar car cost much more than a Hugo? It is clearly because it's a much better product. That is why the care in America is far better than in other countries. One thing I don't want is cheap healthcare. Inexpensive maybe, but certainly not cheap.
2) The governments involvement in the insurance/healthcare industry stifles free the trade market with all of the regulations. This ties the hands of competition.

I would agree we need some changes, but I believe we need less regulation not more. Central Planning is a precription for disaster!

You may want to research this for yourself but I seem to recall reading that in the 70s Carter (of all people) deregulated tranportation and that resulted in cheaper costs of trucking. I think something similar Is true about the Airline industry.

Please untie our hands washington!

Steve

Stan said...

A four person demonstration FOR the 1000page unread health/death care bill received a lot of face time on local TV yesterday. The woman has a daughter with a serious preexisting medical condition, and cannot get medical insurance.

What this woman wants is for someone else to pay for the medical bills. Does the government obligate me to do that? Possibly, through special programs.

But that is not what the medical made-for-tv crisis is about. There is no crisis except for those who want someone else to pay for their issues.

Many of those just go to the emergency room and get the free care anyway. For others, if they are truly in need, there is Medicaid. If it doesn't work, then fix Medicaid. That's not what the Left wants.

The crisis is manufactured by the Left that hates all corporations and loves tax payer money. The Left has manufactured data and skewed data to frighten the public into allowing them to pass a totally unknown bill written by an admitted eugenicist/totalitarian.

Obama's panic push to pass such legislation before it is even read is an indication that it should not be passed, ever.

Martin said...

I'm not for government involvement either, and I do think the free market is best at providing services and products.

However, from what I understand, people who aren't covered usually end up declaring bankruptcy when a medical crisis occurs and these costs get passed on to you and me. So we still end up paying for them taxes or not.

And I've read some interesting stories about these townhall debates, about people being angry about the idea of government healthcare, but then when asked about their Medicare they like it.

???

I don't really know the solution, but I do think the current system, while excelling in quality, has problems.

Perhaps there is a free market solution. I don't really know.